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#1 thyrdeye

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:18 AM

I understand the the amp choices in Vandal are only a starting point from which you can tweak away in a huge array of settings and choices for the amp sounds to fit the songs. I have found that when I chose the AC 30 for that famous clean vox sound for a Beatles guitar sound or various other types of amp sounds. The speaker choices do not fit the sound in my opinion....unless you do a lot of "tweaking".....so as a starting point I would suggest having more specific presets for the following legendary amp sounds that most guitarists are looking for anyway that give you the right enclosure, speaker, EQ and compression...and then you take it from there.

I understand that I think part of the Vandal concept is that you tweak your own versions of these. But what if your sound is worse than it would have been if you had compared your sound to a bank of presets made by some very experienced users who get great sounds.

1) Clean jangley Vox AC 30 Beatles/Byrds sound
2) Clean Fender Steve Cropper sound for R&B, pop and possible country rock (Chet Atkins)
3) Overdriven Punk Marshall sound....The sound of thunder that emanated from the amps of Johnny Ramone
4) Overdriven Jeff Beck lead sound, Eric Clapton Disrali Gears sound, Jimmy Page,classic Hendrix sound, Pete Townsend power chord sound.
5) Overdriven...I'm not into Nu Metal...but I suppose a Mettalica sound (see, I can't even spell their name)
6) Semi Clean New Wave sound for the twitchy sounds from groups like the Cars, Gang Of Four
7) Clean Jazz sound...Wes,
8) U2 Edge sound

For example the way the Vox tonelab is set up is good as far as presets....the problem there is most do not really sound like what they are called. Vandal can do better.

Perhaps there could be a page for users to post their favorite presets.

If anyone has any great presets they use and would like to share them with me and others it would be greatly appreciated....by me....and others.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:58 AM

There IS a page to share your presets. You can also download stuff there. Sascha will certainly be happy to get a nice selection of presets.

Look here:

http://www.vandalamp.../media/.73.html

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:52 PM

There IS a page to share your presets. You can also download stuff there.


I have posted some VANDAL presets there and I have asked in the forum, tell me your wishes... but no feedback.

Greetings from Peter Krausse

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:09 PM


There IS a page to share your presets. You can also download stuff there.


I have posted some VANDAL presets there and I have asked in the forum, tell me your wishes... but no feedback.

Greetings from Peter Krausse


It´s an awful pity that this particular website is not more advertised. Your efforts regarding Vandal really have to be appreciated.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:16 PM



There IS a page to share your presets. You can also download stuff there.


I have posted some VANDAL presets there and I have asked in the forum, tell me your wishes... but no feedback.

Greetings from Peter Krausse


It´s an awful pity that this particular website is not more advertised. Your efforts regarding Vandal really have to be appreciated.

Regards,
Matthias


Thanks for the info and the offer. So helpful and so much appreciated. I suspected there might be a preset page. I suggested the same the to UA for the UAD plugs...and BFD.They both said they are getting one together...don't know if they did.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:37 AM


There IS a page to share your presets. You can also download stuff there.


I have posted some VANDAL presets there and I have asked in the forum, tell me your wishes... but no feedback.

Greetings from Peter Krausse


Hi Peter.

Thanks so much, these presets will help me a lot. I looked through all the current presets posted, and while there may be some that fit what I am looking for, from the preset names I don't know if there are these sounds on there....soooo. here are a few specific sounds I would like to have. If you could create them, post them and let me know, or send me in a PM, however you work it. Of course others would probably find these very useful. So here is what I would love to have presets for (I sort have listed them previously, but I will make it shorter and more specific).

1) Byrds Rickenbacker sound...for 12 string or six string (they used mostly fender amps live, like the bandmaster, but the signature sound was Roger going right into the board using compression. There is a thing called the "Jangle box" that is similar. A vox AC 30 modified might get this sound.

2)Beatles sound, George Harrison, obviously a vox AC 30 sound. Think "Ticket To Ride" or many of their classic songs. Clean with a bit of that beatle bite to the sound

3) Keith Richards Rythem guitar sound. That classic sound that Keith got on Brown Sugar and many songs on Exile. A clean sound but with some bite also

4) Johnny Ramone power chord coming from those 100 Watt Marshall stack. A sound a million punk songs could be made from.

5) The classic clean Steve Cropper sound for R&B. Fender all the way. Like those tweed classic amps you see in great studios. Most of the tweed sounds on the amp sims sound too muffled. I would like more of the classic twin sound, maybe not quite as bright. Also to be used for timeless pop, like the Beach Boys.

6) Jeff Beck sound for lead. I'm talking about his solo from "Shapes of Things" on truth. Pure heaven.

7) Peter Buck classic power pop sound. This would be similar to a Beatles/Byrds sound. For Jangly Pop. For a Rick 360 going into a vintage vox AC 30. He gets an amazing sound live with just that.

8)Bass- classic B-15 for recording pop and R&B. The Jazz combo preset that comes with vandal doesn't cut if for pop(not warm...too much hi end). Think Carol Kaye!

9)Bass- I can't believe there isn't a classic SVT for rock sounds. The presets that are for rock sound nothing like a wonderful Ampeg SVT sound.

This my be too much for starters, I have to experiment with the presets I see listed. But I don't see any with these kind of names. Like you could call one "Clapton Disreali Gears Lead sound"....which is another I would like.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do.......and don't worry, no feedback from me! If I like them I'll use the heck out of em...if you want credit on a record release then you can get your feedback and praise....if you want it.

Thanks

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:10 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do...


Hi thyrdeye,

I will send you an email with a few presets. All are updated, because the presets are on vandalamps.com older than one year. For private use I´ve named it like real amps as:

Vox AC 30
Fender Twin Reverb
Marshall Super Lead 100w (Plexi)
Marshall JCM 800
Roland Jazz Amp (JC120B)
Peavey Combo (Vintage)
Hiwatt
Orange
Ampeg VT 40
Ampeg SVT

But my presets are based only on real amps. So you have to adjust it. There are many ways to do that. For example, klick on the tool-button at the VANDAL-Amp and pull the "Presence"-control, or klick on the tool-button at the VANDAL Cabinet Simulation and pull "Cabinet Balance"-control. This can be achieved very subtle sound adjustments.

But if you want a special original sound, other factors also have be considered:
- The guitar (Strat, Tele, Les Paul, SG, Casino, Burns, Rickenbacker etc.)
- the pickup-type and position (Humbucker, Single-Coil, P90, neck, middle, bridge)
- the audio-interface (DA-converter for the guitar-signal)
- the effects
etc.

All my presets are accessible via footcontroller.

In some of my presets exists the effect "Speaker". Try it and use the pedal, the result is a very spacy sound.

Greetings, Peter

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:46 PM

I have my presets again completely revised and there are some new come to. I hope they will soon be updated to “vandalamps.com”. Here once before a list with the simulated amps:

Vox AC 30
Vox AC 30 (65)
Fender Champ (58)
Fender Deluxe Reverb
Fender Twin Reverb
Fender Dual Showman
Marshall JTM 45 (4x10“)
Marshall JTM 45 (2x12“)
Marshall JMP 100 (Plexi)
Marshall JVC 800
Marshall 2466 BL
Ampeg VT 40
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier
Soldano Hot Rod 50
Bogner Supersonic
Hiwatt
Orange Thunderverb 200h
Roland Jazz Chorus JC 120
Peavey 5105 (Combo)
Gallien Krueger 212LC

Greetings, Peter